Episode 34: We All Scream!

IMG_3135This is the 34th episode of the Blind Tiger podcast, recorded July 30th, 2014. In this episode Mike, Jesse, and myself gathered in our studio to take a break from the summer heat with the greatest dessert known to man or god; the beer float. A concoction that was clearly invented by only the smartest and greatest men (or women) that have ever dared to walk the earth. This combination of ice-cream and beer is the adult version of the root beer float at generations that lived without its greatness truly knew not heaven on earth with it.

We discuss some exciting local news of a new possible brewery or brewpub popping up in the north-west side of Lancaster city.  While it is all speculative the idea of a brewpub being just a few block away from our recording studio is nothing short of amazing.

We discuss the surprisingly overzealousness of  Walmart restrictions to sell beer and liquor to a man in Iowa as his underage daughter was with him.  While we applaud Walmart for attempting to keep alcohol out of the hands of minors it does seem a bit unrealistic that a man must leave his daughter in the car while at a superstore buying more than just the sweetest of elixirs.

We talk about the overly creepy obsession people have with the Old Bay seasoning and why Flying Dog is scaling back distribution of its new Old Bay beer to meet with the insane demand for the beer.

Mike pulls out a new segment where he gripes about the fact that he has started paying attention to bottling dates and is quite taken aback about how old some of those craft beer bottles in the refrigerator can be at certain establishments and whether consumers have a right to complain.

We get into a discussion into the merits of having your fans/customers fund your next expansion project.  Stone Brewing Co is attempting to crowd fund their German expansion.  Is this a genius move or something more akin to sketchy.

But before we got to all that we opened this week with the following question: “If you were going to replace another popular food combination like the ice-cream float so that one of the ingredients was beer, what would you replace with beer and why?”

Show Notes:

Beer News:

  • New Brewery Speculated at Walnut Street Site
  • Flying Dog Scales Distribution over Beer Popularity
  • Walmart Curbs Mans Poor Beer Decision
  • Get Your Beer Fresh at Home with a New Keurig Inspired Device
  • Guinness to release golden lager to USA

Complaint Department:

I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man, but I do want to discuss something with you guys that has been bothering me recently. I had read about old beer before and have heard many people discussing how they constantly are checking out bottle dates to see if their beer is fresh. I had no real encouragement to try this at all, but recent circumstances have led me to be a bit more conscious. For starters, I bought a case of beer from a local beer distributor that contained a variety from an in-state brewery. Now, the distributor is usually pretty good at turnover, but I have noticed some old things on the shelf before. This case, I found out after purchasing, was nearly a year old. And you could tell, the beers, were a bit off and there was a lot of sediment floating around in the bottle. Every pour I made sure to stop before the end in order to avoid the large amount of yeast hanging out on the bottom of the bottle. Long story short, I have been running into old beer constantly. Whether it be dusty Nugget Nectar bottles at a distributor in Delaware to a year and a half old Hopslam I recently had at a BBQ joint to a nearly four year old bottle of Sam Adams Lager that I had at a relative’s house because she just doesn’t drink beer that often. Now I can tell if something is old more from the bottling date, or the fact that something like Nugget Nectar only comes out around February and doesn’t last long, so seeing it in August is highly odd. Lately I have been noticing taste differences and wondered if there really is something to fresh beer.

Point / Counterpoint: Crowdfunding Brewery Expansions

Last Thursday we wrote on the site about how Stone Brewing Company was attempting to crowd fund a large part of the German expansion project.  They have had their eyes set on transforming an old German warehouse into brewery and beer garden.  With their eastern US expansion it appears that they were a bit strapped for capital and went to indiegogo to raise one million dollars from their fans.  As of recording they have 18 days left on their campaign and have raised over $446,398 to date or roughly 45% of their goal.  The backers goals are essentially a way to guarantee access to a very limited and exclusive collaboration series with brewers like BrewDog, Victory and others.  Originally priced at $50.00 for a single 1.5L bomber bottle the price seemed high to back a project by a brewery that has been so successfully they are doubling production with an east coast brewery.  The internet lashed out at Greg Koch and Stone Brewing saying this was essentially screwing over naive or overly enthusiastic fans of their beer.  Others claimed this type of crowdsourcing hurt those in desperate need of funds when larger organizations who have access to other venue streams take up this limited and valuable cash.  And others claimed they were within their rights and if we don’t like we don’t have to back it.  Stone responded by dropping the backers donations from $50 to $30 per bottle but that seems to be missing the overall objection.  My question to you both is, what do you think about crowd funding in general, in using it to start a business, and in this particular instance?  Is Stone acting a bit shady?

Beer vs Beer:

Mike’s Choice:Flying Dog’s Mint Chocolate Stout

Rob’s Choice:Southern Tier’s 2X Stout

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